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Brad Sugars, CEO and Founder at ActionCOACH - The Five Core Disciplines of Exponential Growth in Your Real Estate Business

00:00:04] Brad Sugars in the house, look at him. Could I get a how are you doing? Doing well yourself. [00:00:12] You know, I think I just I don't know if

Brian Charlesworth

Brian Charlesworth

Chairman & CEO

Brian is a highly accomplished entrepreneur, business builder, and thought leader in the real estate industry. With a track record of success in software, telecommunications, and franchise businesses, Brian has a talent for identifying and realizing business opportunities. Driven by his passion for technology, Brian is dedicated to using his skills and experience to bring about positive change and improve people's lives through the advancement of technology.

00:00:04] Brad Sugars in the house, look at him. Could I get a how are you doing? Doing well yourself.

[00:00:12] You know, I think I just I don't know if we did that intentionally, but had two Aussies lined up back to back. What do you think of that?

[00:00:19] Well, I think that's probably what you need to have. I can understand this for a little while.

[00:00:25] So everyone for those of you who don't know, Brad Sugars is the founder and CEO of Action Coach. Action coach is as far as I know. I mean, if you guys think of large coaching companies, you think of maybe Tom very. But Action Coach is actually the largest business coaching company in the world. They're in over eighty one countries and just work with businesses, not just real estate businesses. I'd love for the real estate community to learn more about what they actually do because it's a phenomenal opportunity to really take your business to the next level and operate like businesses do across all industries, not just the real estate industry. So, Brad, thank you for being our final guest today and kind of finishing this off. I'm super excited to hear what you have to say and anything you want to add to that before we eat, before we dove into these five core disciplines that we all need to know.

[00:01:21] Yeah, look, I think, you know, to give people a little bit more, I've been in business myself since I was 15 years old and I've bought and sold or started. More than 50 companies currently are non companies. I run them in two days a week. I like Tuesdays and Thursdays. And for some reason, Brian snuck me in my diary on a Wednesday. Hence the casual nature of life today. I've worked Wednesdays at a long time, but people often ask me, how do I do that? It's because we have a very systematic approach to building business and it doesn't matter whether you are the principal or an agent, it doesn't matter what level you're at. Your business is your business and you need to treat it as such. And so I think that's sort of where we'll start today, really diving into how to build that. And after putting out, what, 17 books now on the subject of business and wealth and the latest one, that's the latest one, they're pulling profits out of a hat. The whole idea of education for business people is very simple. The more you learn, the more you it's no more complex than that. And so my goal as an educator is to make sure people get things they can act on straight away, hence the name action coach.

[00:02:35] So, Brad, I think it's important for for people to know you've written seventeen books, which is amazing. And you guys should really check some of these out. Brad, how many books have you read? I think this is this is a phenomenal thing.

[00:02:50] I think it's about twenty six hundred points. At age 16, I learned from Jim Ryan, if you want to be rich and successful, you read a book a week for the rest of your life, took him pretty seriously. And these days, though, I don't read them, I listen to them. So it's much easier. But I can I can double task. I can work out and listen to the books. Even now I got swimming headphones. These are the best thing ever. When I swim laps, I just listen to the books and in my ear while I'm swimming.

[00:03:19] Yes, there are twenty six hundred books. I just wanted to pull that out. I wasn't sure the number, but I know you are a huge reader and which is why you guys are about to hear when Brad talks. It's just like all these bombs coming out at you, these knowledge bombs. So get ready, pull out your pen and paper and take notes here.

[00:03:38] I want to point out before Brad gets started, Brad, I just saw on Facebook, I believe it was either Facebook or Instagram yesterday that you have a ninety nine dollar course winner, if we could talk about that just to get started, because I think that's something that everyone here can spend ninety nine dollars and benefit tremendously from this. So can you tell us more about that.

[00:04:01] It's actually a nine hundred ninety nine dollar course that because of covid we put it out at ninety nine dollars.

[00:04:07] It's called thirty x, it's 30 minutes a day for thirty days to get my thirty years business knowledge, usually about nine days and most people have about a year long list of things to do. So it's, it's one of those things. It's, it is a look I guess the biggest thing is most of what I learn is by building businesses. So in my restaurant that I own, you have to learn certain strategies there in my commercial cleaning business. You have to learn strategies there within your industry. I just sold my property management company based out of Texas. And so, you know, everything comes from businesses that I do. And so when I teach, it's based on his what I did here, he's what I do. There is not it's not theoretical. It's actual stuff. And because my team of coaches, you know, when you have more than a thousand coaches around the world and we coach in eighty one countries, we test and measure every single thing we do. So everything is used daily to get people to learn and understand and build their business. And so that's why we have 18000 business owners we coach every single week and about two hundred and something thousand that we coach every month.

[00:05:22] Yeah, it's keeping them on track, I guess is a big part of it.

[00:05:27] Yeah, so so anyway, I just wanted to share that, because I know that's something I clicked through yesterday and I was like this nine ninety nine hundred ninety nine. I was like, it's ninety nine.

[00:05:35] It was supposed to be a thousand dollar programing. covid hitting my team just said to me, boss, what are we going to do with this?

[00:05:40] You know, everyone needs to just put it at ninety nine dollars I think. I think they planned November. They put the price back to normal. But if you jump on Brad SugarCRM, you'll see it there for the business success, which is all of the success principles that make someone successful in life. And I'm just in the middle of recording 36 wealth's teaching people how to invest and build wealth in their life.

[00:06:06] I actually clicked on that yesterday. I had it pulled up.

[00:06:09] I, I was in the process of signing up this morning right before this started. My camera wasn't working. I had to reboot my laptop.

[00:06:18] Otherwise I'm going to have to go and just pull that up and we would have finished my application, but I definitely am planning on checking that out.

[00:06:26] So fantastic mentorship. My my biggest thing is, you know, in any business, if you offer massive value for what you do and this is one of the challenges I have, is that a lot of the education out there right now is pure Ra, Ra and and the like. I mean, when I did the video recently with everyone, a few people, a few of the gurus online got upset with me because I just said Hustle and grind is the new stupid. And they all look at me like, you know, you've got to hustle, you've got to grind. Now, we know that just if you're working too hard, it's covering up the inefficiencies in your business and you're not actually seeing where you're making mistakes in business. So therefore, your work actually slows down your success by working too hard. You slow down your success. You don't actually build the business that works.

[00:07:14] You actually do the work.

[00:07:16] And that's coming from Brad, who runs nine companies in two days, two days a week.

[00:07:22] So Brad is the key expert at working on the business instead of in the business.

[00:07:29] And Brad, let's dove into these five core principles because I think something that everybody involved this event needs to know.

[00:07:38] Yeah. So let's look at the five core disciplines and I call them disciplines for a simple reason. You never get them right. They're always something you have to consistently continue to work on in order to make things right. So in no particular order, we have mission, we have execution, we have people, business development and strategy. And so when you sit back and you look at all five core disciplines, let's start with mission. Mission is about having people loving, doing business with you, having your staff loving, coming to work, not just liking it, not just thinking it's good, but actually loving doing business with you. And it's like I see too many companies today where they don't perceive that emotional engagement with the customer is necessary. They don't perceive employee engagement is necessary, especially in this virtual viral world that we live in today. Engaging people on an emotional level is more important than we've ever done before. If you sit back and you and you don't do that, in fact, let me take it one step further. The millennial generation is the first real generation to demand. Why? Why are we doing this? Why are you in business? Why is more important than what how whatever it might be, your core values, all of these things, the mission your business is on is got to be something that is greater than just money. Otherwise, people you can't build loyalty with employees. You can't build loyalty with customers. If there's something if there's nothing more for us in action, courage, we do our coaching for a cause program. All of our coaches around the world and our clients all coach a charity for free. So we're helping these charities for free. People are doing more than what is expected of them just to be a part of that.

[00:09:26] If we dove to execution, execution's about three main things, planning being the first. And if we just discuss that for a moment, I'm planning, if I can be really blunt, the daily plan is the most important plan there is. And that's why Sisu why we get along so well. When you showed me this concept in a diner, what, five, six years ago when we first looked out of this and the whole idea of planning every single day, you want every annual plan to work. You've got to get your monthly plans to work. You get the monthly plans to work. Your weekly plans have got to work. And if you got your weekly plans, work your daily plans to go to work. Every one of my companies, every single employee before they leave every single day puts in their six key ingredient, their six key numbers for the day. What did they achieve for the day? And puts in their plan for the next day. And it happens every single time for every single employee, and it never does. But then you go into your weekly planning and your monthly and those sorts of things. Second part of execution. And is systemize and checklists or systemized whichever way you want to look at it, if there is ineffectiveness in a company, there's a lack of systems. If there is, let me put that even more bluntly. If there is inconsistency in performance, there is inconsistency and checklists there just ISA's if if you want consistency of delivery, you need a checklist. That's why when you get on an airplane, every single pilot has a flight checklist. How come they want to let you know it's not a complex algorithm.

[00:10:55] And Brad, I know I don't even think you know this, but that's something that is in Sisu today.

[00:11:00] We have a Trello style checklist, task management board. Yep.

[00:11:08] And so when you sit down with the third aspect of it is management, management and leadership. And unfortunately, today, management become a bad word somewhere in the late 90s, people like, oh, you don't want to be a manager, you want to be a leader. As if leadership is better than management. Now, they both are needed in an organization like, oh, you don't want to be a micromanager. Listen, when your child is one, you micromanage them. Why? They are incompetent. They can't do what they need to do. Same with employees. A brand new employee needs micromanagement. The job of manager. In fact, let me take you to the job of managers to things productive, competent employees. Productivity and competency is the job of a manager. If you have a lack of productivity or a lack of of competency, that is a lack of management. Management is that short term day to day, week to week, up to a month type, working with a person, keeping them on track on task and doing the right jobs leadership. On the other hand, if we go into the people aspect, if I move to people, she is a business person. Your job is you build your people, they build your business.

[00:12:14] That is your job. If you are not building your people, don't expect them to build your business. You can't expect someone to double their productivity if you're not willing to train them. It's as simple as that. People will only perform as well as they are trained and know how to do it. So leadership is about passion, focused people. And so my book on Team six Keys to a Winning Team takes you through how to do that in an organization. But what you sit down and you look at with leaders, if they can build passion and build focus, then that leader is doing a good job. But then you got to look at what other jobs as a leader have. A leader has the job of recruiting and induction and building the people so that whole people segment of the business. We can spend days on that. A lot of how you recruit good build great. You know, that's that's sort of the simplest way I can put it. But even recruiting these guys from people are so lazy with recruiting, they just recruiting is the number one job. Obviously recruiting great people is the number one job. You should always be hunting for great people, always be on the lookout for great people.

[00:13:22] And, you know, that to me is is a big part of my job as the chairman of all of my companies is to continuously recruit great people, to build the organization and to keep building. But as I build our people, they build our business and knows how you treat your people is how they treat your customers. It's a very simple relationship. And so if you treat your people well, they treat your customers well. They for you, customer keeps coming back and buying from you and treating your business. Well, that's not a complex one, but I guess all of that does go back to a story. Oh, I was twenty or twenty one. I'm forty nine today. So it's an almost thirty years ago. Not forty, not today but forty nine. And my dad, I went to him, I think I was twenty and I went to and I said, you know what Dad, I just can't get good people. And he looked me dead in the eye and he said, Brad, you get the people you deserve in business. You're an average manager running an average business. The highest caliber of employee you're going to get is average.

[00:14:26] And as you can imagine, it was it wasn't exactly the most let's put it this way.

[00:14:34] He was right. I like the message, but he was right. You know, it's like, what did I tell you guys about all these nuggets?

[00:14:42] I mean, I don't know about you guys, but I've written out a page of notes so far.

[00:14:46] So but that's that's great advice coming from your dad. There it is.

[00:14:51] It is very good advice. Now, where I'm going to jump I'm going to jump biz dev because I'm going to come back to business development because I think that's something we want to spend a fair bit of time on here today and got a strategy.

[00:15:01] Strategy for businesses is full of complex things that are added together. Leverage and leverage by definition is do the work, do the work once, get paid for it. That's my definition of the way I teach leverage. So if I write a book once and I make money forever, if I buy a rental property once and I can and I collect rent and capital gain for the rest of my life and my kids lives and so on, that that's. Real leverage and stuff, you look at that from a business perspective, there's three areas we'll break that down to. One is owners work versus employees work. If you do the work once and get paid once, that's employees work. If you do the work once and get paid long term or forever, if you get paid long term, that's managers or leaders work. And if you do the work once and get paid forever, that's honest work. So it's really breaking that work process down into that. The second way to look at it is your product or service. And this is an interesting one. I just had an example of this show up on my Facebook. Someone tag me saying thanks for the idea. There are cookie company that make beautiful cookies and they now have a subscription cookie box that sent to you every month. You can actually buy in forever program. And it's amazing the number of businesses that they don't, and especially in real estate. Remember many moons ago, a young lady in real estate arguing with me that repeat business, she said. But brand people only buy a new house every three to seven years. And I said, right? She said, well, what do you mean keep in touch with them? I said, Well, I'm asking you to write one letter every quarter, post them one letter, a quarter for three, let's say seven years.

[00:16:40] Right. Let's do that. And she said, yes, I said so that's like a dollar or a letter by the time you two postage and all of that sort of stuff. Twenty eight dollars, four times a year, seven dollars, seven years. And she looked at me going, well, that's that's a lot if I write to every single one of them and this is the crazy thing, people don't see that your job is to make a profit on every customer, not to make a profit overall. So your job is to take every single customer and continue that relationship, not overall continue the relationship, because if you ask the average person who their realtor was that sold them the house, they will have forgotten in the vast majority of cases because no one kept in touch with them. But anyway, that's a whole other story. Second third area I want to look at strategy of leverage on is what's an example? Oh, Apple. Think of Apple computers you had. Let's go back to the beginning. Apple versus Microsoft. Microsoft, you've got Bill Gates, who built a piece of software and not a great piece of software in the beginning, obviously, is a piece of software that he made once and sold it a million times. Steve Jobs, the other in the Silicon Valley. He made a computer once. Remember, it was a manufacturer in the beginning, made a computer once installed at once, made it sell it to sell another one. He had to make another one. Steve Jobs gets fired from Apple. Bill Gates goes on to become the richest man in the world. Now Steve Jobs goes off and runs a little company to remember what it was.

[00:18:05] Bright little movie. Yeah, it was the movie company. What's next?

[00:18:11] Pixar for Disney for billions. And what did you learn? What did you learn in the movie business? Well, he learned how to be a good manager and leader because he needed to learn that that's first and foremost. You can read that in his book. But what he does is make a movie once and sell it forever. You think of Disney. Disney's the biggest genius of doing the work once you get paid forever.

[00:18:31] But he came back to Apple, put them into the music business because then he's even smarter than me. Do the work never and get paid forever. They've never made a song, and yet they make 30 cents on the dollar of every single song sold on their site. Now they have a subscription service. Now they have a TV subscription service now and so on and so on.

[00:18:46] You see how they their strategy has shifted over the years because of what they're doing.

[00:18:52] And then you take a look at the second area of strategy, and that is a scalability. My definition of scalability is the next sale cost less and is easier if it gets harder.

[00:19:02] As you grow bigger, then there's a lack of scalability. You haven't thought through the business model well enough.

[00:19:08] And so that's part of it. The third area is that if marketability of the product or service sells itself, which in real estate it does, everyone needs to live somewhere. So they have to sell it somewhere so high priced. And the fourth area is opportunity the size of the opportunity in real estate size, the opportunity is massive because everyone selling tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions. So therefore, any cut of that is quite a large sum. So you've just got to look at the first two, I guess, for a of people. Then we get the biz dev and others see many questions pop up about people.

[00:19:36] Maybe they're just too busy. Right. Everybody's ready now. I've got I've got a whole page of them here, Brad.

[00:19:41] So it's Dev busy. There is three things. Marketing, sales, customer service. So let's focus the rest of the time on that if we can, unless we get any specific questions.

[00:19:53] Marketing today has had to shift. There is we've gone away from face to face and we've got a lot more virtuousness. Your level of video usage today has to be five, ten times what it used to be. Your social media postings should be five or ten times more than it was pretty covid cut of it has spread the economy of virtuousness up by well, I'm saying seven years. I was saying five to ten in the in the during the process. But Amazon released their numbers a few months back, saying they are doing a number of deliveries that they predicted they would be doing in twenty, twenty seven. So they, they've said we've sped up seven years.

[00:20:31] That's why I'm using that number and that's why our packages are taking longer than we may expect sometimes.

[00:20:38] Well, that's like here in Vegas, they just opened their second distribution center online, which was supposed to open in twenty twenty two and they got it open now. So you can imagine how fast they're racing to get everything open. But so if you look at marketing today, you've got to do a lot more education based. You've got to do a lot more testimonial videos. If you don't have testimonial videos today, you're crazy. You've got to massively monitor your ratings and rankings out there. You've got to be on top of that. If you don't ask your best customers to talk about you, the audience, people hear from your worst customer. So make sure your best customers are giving you your ratings and rankings out there. How to buy from you, why I should buy from you the level of blogging, blogging, social media videos, live videos. All of this today has to be way more than it ever was before. And people say, well, you can do too much now. You can't do too much because the algorithms at Facebook and Instagram won't serve your video up to anyone that doesn't want to see every single one of your videos. It won't serve it. So if someone's a little user of you and likes you a little bit, they'll see a video every day or two. Someone who's a massive user will see every single video you've ever posted.

[00:21:53] Algorithms handle that and and and they'll enjoy it, right?

[00:21:58] I do a video today called Drivetime. When I get in the car to go to the gym or get the kids at school, I do a five minute training course that follows me. You can find me on any social media, Facebook, LinkedIn, Insta, Twitter, you name it. I'm on YouTube. Except for Pinterest. I'm not really that. Not really Pinterest. The type of crafty person and marketing shift question.

[00:22:21] You said, you know, you should be posting more than you were pretty covid.

[00:22:26] So I think this industry is full of people who are all about learning, growing. I would say Gary and Tony Robbins are I mean, most people in this industry consume both of those. So what Gary has been saying, you need at least three times a day forever. What is that? What is the answer today? I mean, that was five years ago. What's the answer today? How many times should you be posting today in the space?

[00:22:53] Hub three is it depends on the and the methodology link, then you don't want to be more than two to three times a day Facebook, you want to be four to five times a day. Twitter, you can be 20 or 30 times a day. That doesn't matter. You can post as often as you want. It's a news service. It is probably it's if you're using the story on story, you can be posting four or five, six times a day. You never want your story to ever have nothing. Your story must always have at least once you must post on your story every twenty four hours.

[00:23:24] So I would look, if you're going into a house post, if you're going into a property post, don't don't do something. If you learn something new post, you know, just you've got to be seen as an expert. You've got to be seen as trusted, knowledgeable expert in your marketplace. But give me value when you post up. But but again, somewhere in the vicinity of 10 to 20 percent of your posts should just be personal as well. It's a birthday party, all that sort of stuff. I mean, I keep coming back to you've got to work out what your style of posting is like.

[00:24:02] Are you interviewing your clients after they've made the same? Are you interviewing them after the sale has happened and doing that live? Are you doing walk through and are you water as boring as batshit as some of them are? But some of them I say, oh my God, it's like this person just got a theory of you've just got a post. You know, a little bit of personality goes a long way when when you're posting and that sort of thing. And it doesn't have to be. This is a crazy person. It doesn't have to be this professional, super duper amazing thing. People don't need that anymore.

[00:24:37] Especially on the stories, I mean stories, it's funny stories are usually getting more reviews than anything else. So many people go in and all they do is look at stories and look at the rest of it anymore.

[00:24:45] Yeah, well, that's sort of Facebook is pushing that to you. Facebook really wants to push. Facebook is pushing video and pushing stories. That's that's what they want most.

[00:24:54] And most of all, it's which is not LinkedIn just rolled stories out about a week ago.

[00:25:00] Linkedin is moving in that direction. LinkedIn live. You know, Twitter is going live. There's all this sort of stuff. So live video is a very big part of what a lot of them are doing.

[00:25:11] They're looking for anything that's organic and buy organic. That means you don't have to have massive production value. You can just do a simple post that uses your iPhone and hey presto!

[00:25:26] Great, there's a question here, Brad, I don't know if you want to address this now or later, because we're in the middle of going through this. Is this something you'd like to address now or should I pull it up later?

[00:25:35] I can deal with that. First and foremost, get yourself an action coach.

[00:25:38] They'll help you with that answer. No. One. The second is if you're looking at developing a team within any organization, what your program is for developing your people is a big part of why do people stay in organizations? You've got to look at that question. Why do they leave organizations? OK, so if you're looking at your organization and it's very simply a struggle to recruit, develop and retain other leaders within the organization. So first and foremost, I don't know if we can bring Colin line or not, but first and foremost, what I'd be looking at is what is your recruitment process?

[00:26:16] Where are you recruiting? Because in this day and age, marketing for recruiting is just as hot as marketing for customers or just as important for marketing, whichever way you want to look at it when you're trying to market for customers. One of the things that you do is you get very clear on who you want to go out. Same is true when you're marketing for people to work in your company, but now you've got to think of it as recruiting. See, most companies, what they do is they look to find people who are out of work and build them up. Not what we do is we we recruit. We look for who are the best of the best and how do we get our marketing in front of those people who already have a job because the best people already have a job. They're already working, already doing something. They're not even looking for a job. So your marketing aspect, what we do usually is we'll create a lead pages, dot com website for every job that's available. We'll take a short video at the top of that. It's a video of the director of that department or the VP or the president of that company doing a short video. And this is who we are. This is what we're looking for. This is the type of person we want to recruit. We then have that video able to be shared and it's shared on all of our social media platforms, all of our staff share to all of their friends. It often gets shared on again. We then post that every and we put that on all of our ads. We lead people to it because and then their application is simply below that on a lead pages dot com site.

[00:27:38] So but we also are very proactive. So, for instance, we build in Facebook and LinkedIn, we build groups and we join groups and we get very my manager is very active in a lot of groups around the world and around the country and in the markets that we meet need people in. And what happens is by being in those groups and being active when we go to recruit, we place that. So that video, that lead Page's site, we pop that up there with there's a graphic that we have with it which has our logo action coach and a big running across it. We're hiring again. And so what do you think it does publicity wise that we're recruiting again? We're growing recruiting again. So then you got to look at your development program. What is your development program for your people? How do they know what their development program is and where are they going to go? What is their career path look like with you? Because, again, if people don't have brightness of the future, if they don't know where they're going and that's the brightness of the future is very important to an employee. If I don't see a career path, they will leave. It's as simple as that. If they don't see how they become a leader again, they will leave. But remember, this is very much the vast majority of cases. People don't leave companies, they leave managers. So how they being managed and how they being led is probably the biggest problem in that organization.

[00:29:02] And so if that's the case, there's work to be done at the top.

[00:29:07] Well, I'm not saying it's a bad call, but whenever a business owner comes to me or a CEO comes to me for help and says, you need to fix my people, my first thing is great. The fish stinks from the head down. Let's work on you first. And then once I've worked on you, then we can go work on them because there's no use fixing them if you're still the same person that you were, the many.

[00:29:33] So I guess a structural way of doing things so.

[00:29:36] Ok, Brad, you cut out for just a second, but I think we got I think we got the message. So I know you still had some a few things. We've got three minutes left.

[00:29:46] Let's finish this then. The sales aspect sales again has shifted. You got to remember, in a viral virtual world, fear, worry, you are a big part of human psyche right now. And so what we have to do, especially in an election year, fear, doubt and worry of much of a more of a thing. And I don't know what market everyone is in if you're in Las Vegas or Utah or anywhere outside of California where Governor Newsom has kicked everybody out of the state.

[00:30:12] Congratulations, because in Vegas, your sales process is yes, it's for sale. Thank you for the order, because that's basically the way the market is now. In most markets, people are taking a little longer to buy. They're making the decisions a little slower because they just are of that mindset. They just feel worried about, especially in election year, let alone when there's a virus going around, is something important to remember. But again, I for one hundred years, I keep going back to one thing on sales. No, I can trust that. I know you do. They know who you are as a person. Have they read your profile? Have they seen videos about you? Do they do anything? Have you built something like you and they have you actually done something for them? You've gone over and above. What would be the normal scenario and do they trust you? Have you become a trusted adviser? You know, and when you are selling the invisible I remember reading Harry Beckwith's book, Selling the Invisible probably ten, fifteen years ago and sitting down and thinking, I'm selling me me first, then the other. Now customer service, lifetime retention of a customer. You know, it's it's no more complex than just build that relationship. Don't just build a one off sale, build that relationship and remind yourself of that person. Keep in front of them. Keep in keep in touch with them. But overall, if you work these five disciplines and they're all in the book, so if you jump on Amazon pulling profits out of a hat right there. No audible If you want it on audio version, is that where there is our brand? The new book, Pulling profits out of a hat and is not audible is the easiest way.

[00:31:48] But it's the book pulling profits out.

[00:31:51] The newest one, the one before that was the wealth coach. I thought people out of wealth. What was the one before that?

[00:31:56] I regret buying customers prior to that to 2002. Updated for current times. Yeah. So any other questions that I can answer before we our time, our time has run.

[00:32:09] Yeah, I think our time is up, but I just want to personally thank you for joining us on your day off and making time for us.

[00:32:18] Again, I don't think a lot of people from the real estate industry know who you are like they do from a lot of other industries and just your wealth of knowledge and showing up for us today. I really appreciate and thank you for it.

[00:32:33] Yeah, buddy. Lovely to be here. Thank you so much. And keep educating everybody out there. Keep that growing by four now. Everybody, thank you for having me.

[00:32:41] Thank you, Brad.

[00:32:46] All right, everyone, thank you so much for joining us today. We will begin tomorrow morning bright and early, 9:00 a.m. Mountain Time.

[00:32:54] That may be late for you on the East Coast. And hopefully you guys got some great nuggets today. I know I did. And I love when we do something that is going to I mean, we want to make sure that you guys are growing in your business and just sitting here spending time with some of these individuals today. I know I've taken some great nuggets away as well. So anyway, I hope you all have as well. Have a great night and we'll see you tomorrow morning.

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